Is a position in academia a viable option
Career with a doctoral degree in management
Posted by plvasco on 12/25/16 9:02pm
Im considering a career change into academia after several years in the corporate world. Is a DBA a viable option to allow for this to happen?
Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/26/16 11:51am
Hi there,
well, it can be. Staying within the business world and teaching occasionally is a viable option for sure. Achieving an academic position is more difficult and may require some characteristics of your specific doctoral program.
First, formal requirements. For instance, in Germany you can only achieve an academic position with an official "Dr." degree. If you do a DBA at a university that is offically acknowledged as university by the respective state - e.g., Cranfield in the UK - you gain a DBA degree that is officially recognized as "Dr." in Germany - hence, you can apply for an academic position.
If you do a DBA at a business school that is not officially acknowledged, you cannot gain an academic position at a state university in Germany. You may, however, gain a position at a private university.
So far for the formalities that should be the same for all European Union countries. Outside the EU, things may be different though.
Secondly, and beyond these formal questions, the reputation of your DBA (or the institution where you obtain your DBA) may play a role as well. If your institution has a strong recommendation for research, it may positively affect your chances of an academic position.
Finally, your chances may also depend on the academic institution you want to work for in the future. Some may be more open to DBA graduates, some less..
Bottom line: DBA is not DBA and chances for an academic position may differ strongly across institutions. But here are some advices:
- Think about which institutions you would like to work for in the future and contact them. Ask them if they (1) know what a DBA is, (2) how they value it, (3) if they would be open to hire DBA graduates and (4) if yes, from which schools.
- Contact your favorite DBA programs (the program managers) and (1) ask them how many DBA graduates achieved an academic position afcterwards - and (2) ask them to bring you in contact with them.
Best wishes,
ThomasBy Thomas Graf
Founder DBA Compass
Author of the DBA SurveyPosted by murozel on 12/26/16 10:14pm
Most of what Thomas has written is also true for a PhD as well, in my opinion. (e.g. the official recognition of the uni, the research reputation of the uni, etc.).
As far as I know from my observations on the UK HE sector, an academic position with a professional doctorate such as the DBA and DProf is quite possible. This, especially if you focus on applied research and on the schools which put an emphasis on applied research.
I cannot comment on the situation in other countries, though, perhaps with the exception of the US, where I know that it is possible again.
Regards,
Posted by Dbaguest12 on 04/08/17 10:16am
Hi All,
As far as I understand, DBA graduates from UK universities may be eligible to carry a Dr. title in Germany and therefore work in academia in Germany. I believe this is because both the universities offering DBA programmes and the degree itself are recognised by the education council in the UK.
What is the situation if a university that offers a DBA programme has an international accreditation and is recognised in its respective country as a university, but the DBA degree itself is not?
Thanks
Posted by murozel on 04/09/17 4:49pm
Well, let me add that even the issue of whether or not to be entitled to hold the Dr title seems questionable in today's rather connected, increasingly borderless world. (No, I do not think this tide has been reversed).
I totally acknowledge the legitimacy of being or not being able to work in state universities in a given country, and the right of the relevant authorities to judge the official recognition of the university and the degree in that context, but that's it (Moreover, the same may apply to any employer).
Other than that, e.g. if you work in private sector, and you hold a degree from an officially recognised university of an officially recognised country (i.e. by the UN), your degree must be valid across the world, enabling you to use your title on your business card, online profiles, etc., if you wish to do so. Otherwise, every degree and/or academic title holder would have to seek official recognition from every other country that he/she would travel to or be virtually visible in.(Think your LinkedIn profile, for example: It does not know any borders, as it is visible to anyone on the web, regardless of the countries. Probably your profile will sit on the servers which are physically located at another part of the world than where you are.)
Posted by Thomas Graf on 04/10/17 10:23am
Hi there,
in addition to Murozel's comment: This is a 1/0 question. EIther the university if officially recognized in the respective country or not. If it is recognized, its degrees are as well (including the DBA).
Another tip: If you have doubts on a specific degree outside of Germany and its recognition in Germany, I recommend contacting the Standing Conference of the Ministers of Education and Cultural Affairs of the Länder in the Federal Republic of Germany directly and simply ask them.
Best wishes,
ThomasBy Thomas Graf
Founder DBA Compass
Author of the DBA Survey
Posted by Cherry Cherian on 05/02/18 5:37pm
Yes recognition of DBA by the host country becomes important when you apply for travel documents
Posted by Asaad on 07/31/18 1:43am
Greetings Thomas,
Thank you very much for the wonderful website.
Do you know if the DBA degree from Maastricht School of Managemnt (MSM) in the Netherlands s officially recognized in Germany? I checked ANABIN and the business school has a status of a H+/-
Also, do you know whether the DBA programs at MSM is recognized in Germany. In other words, will I be able to use the title “Dr.” in my ID, Passport, Business cards, etc.
If the DBA program is not recognized, but MSM is definitely recognized by the Dutch education government. In this case, can I still use the title of Dr. according to some law that enables the use of titles across the EU member states!
I called a few officials already, including the KMK.org, however, they gave very mixed information. Some said MSM is a quite reputable school and yes the degree is recognized and I can use Dr. title as a result. Another said I should apply for a “certificate of comparability” so they examine my papers more thoroughly. However, chances of acceptance are very low due to no recognition of the DBA program by MSM in Holland.
I am not really sure about the authenticity of such information. Therefore, your knowledge about the matter will be of major help.
Thank you once again.
Asaad
Posted by thomas.graf on 08/03/18 11:26am
Hi there,
try to find out if the MSM DBA as a DEGREE (not the MSM itself) is recognized officially in The Netherlands. E.g., if you can hold the "Dr." title there. If that's the case, normally this is a signal that you can also hold it in Germany.
Best regards,
ThomasBy Thomas Graf
Founder DBA CompassPosted by Yeldar on 12/11/23 6:06pm
Of course, it's not recognized. It's clearly stated at their DBA's website. In Netherlands, France, Czech Republic, etc. these DBA's are not accredited as doctorates.
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